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 <p>In an <a
 href="http://www.sdtimes.com/link/29026">
 opinion piece</a> in the Dec. 15th issue of the Software Development
 Times, AccuRev CTO Damon Poole makes various false or misleading
 claims about Subversion and about open source SCM systems in general.
 Beyond that, he uses not-very-subtly biased language to imply that
 only proprietary SCM systems are worth taking seriously.  Since his
 company competes directly against open source systems, it's
 understandable that he'd want his readers to think this, but it is a
 disservice to people seeking solutions to their change management
 problems.</p>

 <p>Poole's article does make some valid points, and we agree that
 commercial investment is good for software, both proprietary and open
 source.  However, we think he misanalyzes the amount, nature, and
 effect of commercial backing in open source software.  The purpose of
 this response is to correct his mistakes and point out his biases.
 Therefore we address only those issues below, and urge you to read his
 original piece for the rest (<a
 href="http://www.sdtimes.com/article/opinion-20051215-02.html"
 >http://www.sdtimes.com/article/opinion-20051215-02.html</a>).
 Indented red text in italics is quoted from the original, the regular
 text is our commentary:</p>

 <blockquote>
 <p style="color: red;"><i>According to the analyst firm Ovum, most
 professional developers are still using homegrown SCM tools. Homegrown
 tools are either built entirely from scratch or more commonly built
 atop one of the free version-control tools such as CVS or
 Subversion.</i></p>
 </blockquote>

 <p>By saying "still", Poole tries to imply some clear industry trend
 toward proprietary solutions, when there is no such trend.  Numbers
 are hard to come by, because open source licenses cannot be tracked
 like proprietary ones, but anyone working in professional software
 development today knows that adoption of open source SCM is strong; on
 the Subversion mailing lists, we often see posts from people seeking
 to switch from proprietary tools to Subversion.  And the degree to
 which an SCM solution is "homegrown" is largely independent of whether
 it is based on open source or proprietary technology, as we discuss in
 more detail below.</p>

 <blockquote>
 <p style="color: red;"><i>Unlike major open-source projects such as
 Linux, which receives corporate support in the form of salaried
 engineers from such companies as IBM and Red Hat, open-source SCM
 projects receive very little corporate sponsorship. As a result,
 features and innovation in the open-source SCM tools lag far behind
 the commercial SCM tools.</i></p>
 </blockquote>

 <p><a href="http://www.collab.net/">CollabNet</a>, which started the
 Subversion project, has sponsored it consistently for six years as of
 this writing, employing several full-time developers and paying all
 the hosting and infrastructure costs (<a
 href="http://www.redhat.com/">Red&nbsp;Hat</a> also sponsored some of
 its early development).  Other open source SCM systems also receive
 corporate sponsorship, for example, <a
 href="http://www.canonical.com/">Canonical</a> sponsors <a
 href="http://bazaar-ng.org/">Bazaar-NG</a>, <a
 href="http://bestpractical.com/">Best&nbsp;Practical</a> supports <a
 href="http://svk.elixus.org/">SVK</a> development, etc.</p>

 <p>Regarding innovation: let's remember that it was an open source
 product (<a href="http://www.nongnu.org/cvs/">CVS</a>) that made
 WAN-accessible version control repositories an industry standard, a
 feature some proprietary products are still scrambling to catch up
 with, now that globally distributed development is becoming the norm.
 Poole is naive to assume that only proprietary models are capable of
 real innovation; it's never been that simple.  But even granting that
 wrong assumption, open source development receives more, and steadier,
 funding than he acknowledges.</p>

 <blockquote>
 <p style="color: red;"><i>Some of the major features that are
 available only in the commercial tools are refactoring (rename
 operations that preserve history and merge operations), issue-based
 change packages, tight integration with issue tracking, stream-based
 development, caching, replication, full support for mixed Unix and
 Windows environments, and process workflow. In addition to these
 examples, there are literally hundreds of smaller features that are
 available only in the commercial tools.</i></p>
 </blockquote>

 <p>Many of these features are available in open source tools; anyone
 familiar with the field would be able to think of counterexamples
 right away.  Perhaps Poole has highly idiosyncratic definitions of
 these features, carefully constructed so as to make his statement true
 in some formal sense, but if that's the case, he should state those
 definitions clearly.  His statements as given are misleading, at least
 as most readers would be likely to interpret them.  We also wonder if
 he has actually enumerated those "hundreds" of features that are
 "available only in the commercial tools"&nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;and if he
 has tried the same exercise in the other direction.</p>

 <blockquote>
 <p style="color: red;"><i>CVS, introduced in 1986 and now the most
 popular open-source SCM tool, is missing not only the features above,
 but also some of the more basic features, such as atomic transactions,
 fast branching, rename tracking and merge tracking.</i></p>
 </blockquote>

 <blockquote>
 <p style="color: red;"><i>In 2000, a group of open-source developers
 (with the help of a commercial sponsor, CollabNet), set out to address
 this deficit by creating a tool from scratch, called Subversion. Their
 goals and road map do not include the more advanced capabilities
 listed earlier. In the five years since inception, they have
 accomplished only the first two of their four goals, atomic
 transactions and fast branching. It comes as no surprise that rename
 tracking and merge tracking are still missing from Subversion, as
 those are both difficult SCM problems that are typically either part
 of the original architecture or never implemented (as is the case with
 CVS).</i></p>
 </blockquote>

 <p>This isn't just bias or misstatement: it's factually incorrect.
 And inexcusable, given that everything about the Subversion project
 and its history is publicly accessible at the project's home page (<a
 href="http://subversion.tigris.org/">http://subversion.tigris.org/</a>).</p>

 <p>Looking at the original version of the Subversion home page, as it
 appeared when the project was started, we count twelve goals (not
 four), many with subgoals.  Almost all of these were accomplished; a
 few were deferred and replaced with different
 goals&nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;reprioritizations that resulted from listening
 closely to our user community, a responsiveness which is one of open
 source's great strengths.</p>

 <p>Furthermore, Subversion's road map (which extends far beyond the
 1.0 goals we reached in 2004) has long included many of the features
 Damon Poole claims the project is ignoring.  There are even issues
 filed in our public issue tracker about some of these features,
 with links to design discussions and patches.</p>

 <p>But there's a deeper sense in which he is mistaken.  Subversion by
 itself may be a standalone version control system, but thanks to its
 rich and well-documented APIs, it has been integrated into fuller
 change management systems, that include features like tight
 integration with issue tracking (see <a
 href="http://www.edgewall.com/trac/">Trac</a>, for example).  Such
 third-party repackaging is the norm in open source software, and means
 that end users can enjoy the benefits of tool integration without
 needing to become integration experts themselves.  Thus Poole should
 either compare just the version control component of a proprietary
 suite against Subversion, or compare a full proprietary suite against
 a full open source suite.  Comparing standalone Subversion with an
 entire proprietary tool suite is weighing apples against oranges.</p>

 <blockquote>
 <p style="color: red;"><i>Open-source SCM tools are written by
 open-source developers primarily to meet their own needs. This leaves
 out key constituencies such as release engineers, QA and
 management. The commercial SCM tools need to appeal to all
 constituencies and thus offer a more balanced set of features and
 benefits for the whole organization.</i></p>
 </blockquote>

 <p>There is a kernel of truth to this description of open source, but
 the Subversion project (with institutional support from CollabNet) has
 worked hard to overcome this problem by deliberately seeking out
 enterprise-level users and studying their requirements, to help us
 design and prioritize features.</p>

 <p>It is certainly not true that proprietary SCM tools need to appeal
 to more constituencies than open source tools.  Any tool that wants to
 be successful will appeal to as many constituencies as it can while
 remaining coherent and comprehensible.  That's exactly what we're
 trying to do with Subversion, and we believe we're succeeding.</p>

 <blockquote>
 <p style="color: red;"><i>Homegrown tools tend to be built to satisfy
 current business requirements, and thus, they lack the flexibility to
 adapt quickly to changing business needs. Reconfiguring usually means
 partial rewrites or adding new functionality. The need for SCM vendors
 to meet the requirements of many organizations requires them to design
 SCM tools that easily adapt to a wide range of business requirements
 via customization. When it comes time to change your process, it is
 far easier to change customizations in a commercial SCM tool than it
 is to rewrite or add new functionality to a homegrown SCM
 tool.</i></p>
 </blockquote>

 <p>This doesn't ring true, even if one accepts the premise that a
 proprietary tool will need less customization than an open source one
 (which is not always the case).  Why would a
 closed source tool be inherently more flexible than an open source
 one, when open source tools come with source code, a wealth of
 third-party add-ons in some cases, and a vastly better record of
 standards-compliance and interoperability?  Our experience has been
 the opposite: open source tools are more flexible than proprietary
 ones.  Flexibility may or may not be a good thing, depending on how
 much customization one desires, but that is a different question.</p>

 <p>This might also be the place to point out that Poole likes to say
 "homegrown" when he's talking about open source, but "customization"
 when talking about proprietary solutions.  We don't see the
 difference.  Those who run open source SCM systems customize them in
 the same way they would a proprietary system: via the published APIs
 and administrative interfaces.  Open source solutions are not
 necessarily more nor less "homegrown" than proprietary ones.  The
 amount of customization required depends on how well a tool natively
 fits one's needs, regardless of whether that tool is proprietary or
 open source.  Poole's use of "homegrown" is merely pejorative.</p>

 <blockquote>
 <p style="color: red;"><i>Commercial SCM tools are rapidly gaining in
 popularity. In 1994, according to IDC, just US$173 million was spent
 on commercial SCM tools. In 2004, $1,062 million was spent, with
 double-digit growth in both 2003 and 2004. Looking forward, IDC
 expects this growth to continue.</i></p>
 </blockquote>

 <p>The statistics Poole gives above do not support his case; they may
 support the opposite.</p>

 <p>Between 1994 and 2004, the software industry in general grew
 hugely&nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;the sheer number of people writing code for a
 living has been increasing for a long time.  To see a roughly tenfold
 growth in dollars spent on commercial SCM licenses is only to be
 expected (and he doesn't say whether the numbers have been adjusted
 for inflation, nor whether they control for real changes in license
 prices).  It would be surprising <i>not</i> to see at least this much
 growth, even if the sector were merely holding steady.</p>

 <p>But anyway, counting license dollars is conveniently incommensurate
 with open source growth, since open source software don't have license
 fees.  What Poole should be interested in is relative growth in user
 base between proprietary and open source SCM systems, in which case a
 chart like <a
 href="http://subversion.tigris.org/svn-dav-securityspace-survey.html"
 >this one</a>, showing Subversion's extremely rapid growth since even
 before its 1.0 release, might be useful for comparison.</p>

 <blockquote>
 <p style="color: red;"><i>With this growth has come an increase in
 innovation, both from the established vendors and from new entrants in
 the market. In short, this is a great time to consider stepping up to
 a commercial SCM tool.</i></p>
 </blockquote>

 <p>The SCM field in general is seeing a lot of innovation lately, but
 this phenomenon is just as true in the open source systems as in the
 proprietary ones&nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;as the users and authors of
 Subversion, SVK, Codeville, Mercurial, Vesta, Darcs, monotone,
 Bazaar-NG, CVSNT, Arch/tla, Aegis, GIT, and many others could testify.
 We'd like to amend Poole's sentiment: this is a great time to consider
 stepping up to the SCM tool that best fits your needs, without
 distraction from baseless prejudices about proprietary versus open
 source software.</p>

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	<p style="font-size: 70%; text-align: center;">[First published: 10 Jan 2006,
	canonical URL:
	<a href="http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/www/poole-response.html"
	>http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/www/poole-response.html</a>]</p>

	<p>In an <a
	href="http://www.sdtimes.com/link/29026">
	opinion piece</a> in the Dec. 15th issue of the Software Development
	Times, AccuRev CTO Damon Poole makes various false or misleading
	claims about Subversion and about open source SCM systems in general.
	Beyond that, he uses not-very-subtly biased language to imply that
	only proprietary SCM systems are worth taking seriously. Since his
	company competes directly against open source systems, it's
	understandable that he'd want his readers to think this, but it is a
	disservice to people seeking solutions to their change management
	problems.</p>

	<p>Poole's article does make some valid points, and we agree that
	commercial investment is good for software, both proprietary and open
	source. However, we think he misanalyzes the amount, nature, and
	effect of commercial backing in open source software. The purpose of
	this response is to correct his mistakes and point out his biases.
	Therefore we address only those issues below, and urge you to read his
	original piece for the rest (<a
	href="http://www.sdtimes.com/article/opinion-20051215-02.html"
	>http://www.sdtimes.com/article/opinion-20051215-02.html</a>).
	Indented red text in italics is quoted from the original, the regular
	text is our commentary:</p>

	<blockquote>
	<p style="color: red;"><i>According to the analyst firm Ovum, most
	professional developers are still using homegrown SCM tools. Homegrown
	tools are either built entirely from scratch or more commonly built
	atop one of the free version-control tools such as CVS or
	Subversion.</i></p>
	</blockquote>

	<p>By saying "still", Poole tries to imply some clear industry trend
	toward proprietary solutions, when there is no such trend. Numbers
	are hard to come by, because open source licenses cannot be tracked
	like proprietary ones, but anyone working in professional software
	development today knows that adoption of open source SCM is strong; on
	the Subversion mailing lists, we often see posts from people seeking
	to switch from proprietary tools to Subversion. And the degree to
	which an SCM solution is "homegrown" is largely independent of whether
	it is based on open source or proprietary technology, as we discuss in
	more detail below.</p>

	<blockquote>
	<p style="color: red;"><i>Unlike major open-source projects such as
	Linux, which receives corporate support in the form of salaried
	engineers from such companies as IBM and Red Hat, open-source SCM
	projects receive very little corporate sponsorship. As a result,
	features and innovation in the open-source SCM tools lag far behind
	the commercial SCM tools.</i></p>
	</blockquote>

	<p><a href="http://www.collab.net/">CollabNet</a>, which started the
	Subversion project, has sponsored it consistently for six years as of
	this writing, employing several full-time developers and paying all
	the hosting and infrastructure costs (<a
	href="http://www.redhat.com/">Red Hat</a> also sponsored some of
	its early development). Other open source SCM systems also receive
	corporate sponsorship, for example, <a
	href="http://www.canonical.com/">Canonical</a> sponsors <a
	href="http://bazaar-ng.org/">Bazaar-NG</a>, <a
	href="http://bestpractical.com/">Best Practical</a> supports <a
	href="http://svk.elixus.org/">SVK</a> development, etc.</p>

	<p>Regarding innovation: let's remember that it was an open source
	product (<a href="http://www.nongnu.org/cvs/">CVS</a>) that made
	WAN-accessible version control repositories an industry standard, a
	feature some proprietary products are still scrambling to catch up
	with, now that globally distributed development is becoming the norm.
	Poole is naive to assume that only proprietary models are capable of
	real innovation; it's never been that simple. But even granting that
	wrong assumption, open source development receives more, and steadier,
	funding than he acknowledges.</p>

	<blockquote>
	<p style="color: red;"><i>Some of the major features that are
	available only in the commercial tools are refactoring (rename
	operations that preserve history and merge operations), issue-based
	change packages, tight integration with issue tracking, stream-based
	development, caching, replication, full support for mixed Unix and
	Windows environments, and process workflow. In addition to these
	examples, there are literally hundreds of smaller features that are
	available only in the commercial tools.</i></p>
	</blockquote>

	<p>Many of these features are available in open source tools; anyone
	familiar with the field would be able to think of counterexamples
	right away. Perhaps Poole has highly idiosyncratic definitions of
	these features, carefully constructed so as to make his statement true
	in some formal sense, but if that's the case, he should state those
	definitions clearly. His statements as given are misleading, at least
	as most readers would be likely to interpret them. We also wonder if
	he has actually enumerated those "hundreds" of features that are
	"available only in the commercial tools" — and if he
	has tried the same exercise in the other direction.</p>

	<blockquote>
	<p style="color: red;"><i>CVS, introduced in 1986 and now the most
	popular open-source SCM tool, is missing not only the features above,
	but also some of the more basic features, such as atomic transactions,
	fast branching, rename tracking and merge tracking.</i></p>
	</blockquote>

	<blockquote>
	<p style="color: red;"><i>In 2000, a group of open-source developers
	(with the help of a commercial sponsor, CollabNet), set out to address
	this deficit by creating a tool from scratch, called Subversion. Their
	goals and road map do not include the more advanced capabilities
	listed earlier. In the five years since inception, they have
	accomplished only the first two of their four goals, atomic
	transactions and fast branching. It comes as no surprise that rename
	tracking and merge tracking are still missing from Subversion, as
	those are both difficult SCM problems that are typically either part
	of the original architecture or never implemented (as is the case with
	CVS).</i></p>
	</blockquote>

	<p>This isn't just bias or misstatement: it's factually incorrect.
	And inexcusable, given that everything about the Subversion project
	and its history is publicly accessible at the project's home page (<a
	href="http://subversion.tigris.org/">http://subversion.tigris.org/</a>).</p>

	<p>Looking at the original version of the Subversion home page, as it
	appeared when the project was started, we count twelve goals (not
	four), many with subgoals. Almost all of these were accomplished; a
	few were deferred and replaced with different
	goals — reprioritizations that resulted from listening
	closely to our user community, a responsiveness which is one of open
	source's great strengths.</p>

	<p>Furthermore, Subversion's road map (which extends far beyond the
	1.0 goals we reached in 2004) has long included many of the features
	Damon Poole claims the project is ignoring. There are even issues
	filed in our public issue tracker about some of these features,
	with links to design discussions and patches.</p>

	<p>But there's a deeper sense in which he is mistaken. Subversion by
	itself may be a standalone version control system, but thanks to its
	rich and well-documented APIs, it has been integrated into fuller
	change management systems, that include features like tight
	integration with issue tracking (see <a
	href="http://www.edgewall.com/trac/">Trac</a>, for example). Such
	third-party repackaging is the norm in open source software, and means
	that end users can enjoy the benefits of tool integration without
	needing to become integration experts themselves. Thus Poole should
	either compare just the version control component of a proprietary
	suite against Subversion, or compare a full proprietary suite against
	a full open source suite. Comparing standalone Subversion with an
	entire proprietary tool suite is weighing apples against oranges.</p>

	<blockquote>
	<p style="color: red;"><i>Open-source SCM tools are written by
	open-source developers primarily to meet their own needs. This leaves
	out key constituencies such as release engineers, QA and
	management. The commercial SCM tools need to appeal to all
	constituencies and thus offer a more balanced set of features and
	benefits for the whole organization.</i></p>
	</blockquote>

	<p>There is a kernel of truth to this description of open source, but
	the Subversion project (with institutional support from CollabNet) has
	worked hard to overcome this problem by deliberately seeking out
	enterprise-level users and studying their requirements, to help us
	design and prioritize features.</p>

	<p>It is certainly not true that proprietary SCM tools need to appeal
	to more constituencies than open source tools. Any tool that wants to
	be successful will appeal to as many constituencies as it can while
	remaining coherent and comprehensible. That's exactly what we're
	trying to do with Subversion, and we believe we're succeeding.</p>

	<blockquote>
	<p style="color: red;"><i>Homegrown tools tend to be built to satisfy
	current business requirements, and thus, they lack the flexibility to
	adapt quickly to changing business needs. Reconfiguring usually means
	partial rewrites or adding new functionality. The need for SCM vendors
	to meet the requirements of many organizations requires them to design
	SCM tools that easily adapt to a wide range of business requirements
	via customization. When it comes time to change your process, it is
	far easier to change customizations in a commercial SCM tool than it
	is to rewrite or add new functionality to a homegrown SCM
	tool.</i></p>
	</blockquote>

	<p>This doesn't ring true, even if one accepts the premise that a
	proprietary tool will need less customization than an open source one
	(which is not always the case). Why would a
	closed source tool be inherently more flexible than an open source
	one, when open source tools come with source code, a wealth of
	third-party add-ons in some cases, and a vastly better record of
	standards-compliance and interoperability? Our experience has been
	the opposite: open source tools are more flexible than proprietary
	ones. Flexibility may or may not be a good thing, depending on how
	much customization one desires, but that is a different question.</p>

	<p>This might also be the place to point out that Poole likes to say
	"homegrown" when he's talking about open source, but "customization"
	when talking about proprietary solutions. We don't see the
	difference. Those who run open source SCM systems customize them in
	the same way they would a proprietary system: via the published APIs
	and administrative interfaces. Open source solutions are not
	necessarily more nor less "homegrown" than proprietary ones. The
	amount of customization required depends on how well a tool natively
	fits one's needs, regardless of whether that tool is proprietary or
	open source. Poole's use of "homegrown" is merely pejorative.</p>

	<blockquote>
	<p style="color: red;"><i>Commercial SCM tools are rapidly gaining in
	popularity. In 1994, according to IDC, just US$173 million was spent
	on commercial SCM tools. In 2004, $1,062 million was spent, with
	double-digit growth in both 2003 and 2004. Looking forward, IDC
	expects this growth to continue.</i></p>
	</blockquote>

	<p>The statistics Poole gives above do not support his case; they may
	support the opposite.</p>

	<p>Between 1994 and 2004, the software industry in general grew
	hugely — the sheer number of people writing code for a
	living has been increasing for a long time. To see a roughly tenfold
	growth in dollars spent on commercial SCM licenses is only to be
	expected (and he doesn't say whether the numbers have been adjusted
	for inflation, nor whether they control for real changes in license
	prices). It would be surprising <i>not</i> to see at least this much
	growth, even if the sector were merely holding steady.</p>

	<p>But anyway, counting license dollars is conveniently incommensurate
	with open source growth, since open source software don't have license
	fees. What Poole should be interested in is relative growth in user
	base between proprietary and open source SCM systems, in which case a
	chart like <a
	href="http://subversion.tigris.org/svn-dav-securityspace-survey.html"
	>this one</a>, showing Subversion's extremely rapid growth since even
	before its 1.0 release, might be useful for comparison.</p>

	<blockquote>
	<p style="color: red;"><i>With this growth has come an increase in
	innovation, both from the established vendors and from new entrants in
	the market. In short, this is a great time to consider stepping up to
	a commercial SCM tool.</i></p>
	</blockquote>

	<p>The SCM field in general is seeing a lot of innovation lately, but
	this phenomenon is just as true in the open source systems as in the
	proprietary ones — as the users and authors of
	Subversion, SVK, Codeville, Mercurial, Vesta, Darcs, monotone,
	Bazaar-NG, CVSNT, Arch/tla, Aegis, GIT, and many others could testify.
	We'd like to amend Poole's sentiment: this is a great time to consider
	stepping up to the SCM tool that best fits your needs, without
	distraction from baseless prejudices about proprietary versus open
	source software.</p>

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