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<p class="documenttype"><a href="index.html">Meeting Minutes</a></p>
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<p class="companyname">OpenOffice.org</p>
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<h1 class="western" align="left"><b>Bi-Weekly
Meeting common User Interface (CUI)</b></h1>
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<p align="left">October 23<sup>th</sup>, 2003</p>
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<p>+ Oliver Specht (OS)<br>
+ Christian Jansen (CJ)<br>
+ Matthias Müller-Prove (MMP)<br>
- Hans-Peter Burow (PB)<br>
+ Daniel Rentz (DR)<br>
+ Frank Schönheit (FS) <br>
+ Gunnar Timm (GT)<br>
+ Christian Lippka (CL)</p>
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<p align="left">FS (next: OS, PB, MMP, GT, OS, DR, CJ, CL, FS)</p>
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<p><a href="http://ui.openoffice.org/protocols/">http://ui.openoffice.org/protocols</a></p>
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<a
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Action Items</a></p>
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<a
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<h2><a name="actionitems"></a>1 Action Items</h2>
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<p><b>previous items</b></p>
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<p>Arrange meeting to discuss technical problems for new context
sensitiv toolbar handling </p>
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<p>Christian Jansen </p>
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<p>open<br>
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<p><b>new items</b></p>
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<b>1.1 Comments on Action Items</b></h3>
<h2><a name="roundtable"></a>2 Roundtable</h2>
<h3>2.1 New Options Dialog<br>
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<p>For OpenOffice.org 2.0, <a
href="http://specs.openoffice.org/appwide/separate_modules/OptionsDialog.sxw">it's
planned to change the options
dialog</a>, so that it only displays settings for the application where
it
has been called, plus settings affecting all applications.<br>
There was a discussion whether this could lead to conflicts, e.g. if
somebody opens an option dialog in application A, then opens an option
dialog in application B, changes general settings in the latter,
confirms this with OK, and then does some other settings in the first
dialog (which now already doesn't reflect the real settings), and
confirms these, too. We agree that there's a potential conflict,
however, such a scenario is considered rather artificial, so it's not
really worth caring for it, considering the pontential effort.<br>
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<h3>2.2 Modal Dialogs<br>
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<p>Related to the previous topic, MMP asked whether there are
chances to improve our current handling of modal dialog. That is, you
can open two modal dialogs from different applications, but you cannot
operate the first one (in particular: you cannot close it) until the
second one is gone.<br>
This problem has been extensively discussed in the past, with folks
from the framework and the graphics system layer team. The outcome at
this time was that it's really hard to change this behaviour, since it
would require dialogs which are not stack-modal, or a dedicated thread
for every dialog. Both is hard to accomplish, especially with respect
to all the different systems OpenOffice.org has to run on.<br>
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In addition, when a modal dialog is open, chosing "Quit" from the menu
of another window doesn't do anything - neither quit the application,
nor warn the user, or point her to the open dialog.<br>
For the second problem, MMP should contact Mathias Bauer, who could
probably change this behaviour (or at least know where to change it),
if required, so that e.g. a warning is shown.<br>
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<h3>2.3 Killing OpenOffice.org on shutdown<br>
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<p>MMP reported that when Windows is shut down while
OpenOffice.org is running, there (sometimes?) is the situation that the
system offers to kill the OpenOffice.org process since it's not
responding. We agreed that this is most probably a problem of
OpenOffice.org, not the system. MMP should contact Mathias Bauer about
this.<br>
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<h3>2.4 Print Options<br>
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<p>MMP raised the problem that the print options tab page
(Tools|Options|OpenOffice.org|Print) is quite weird at the moment, with
radio buttons which, when checked, change the semantics of the
remaining controls. He asked whether this should be fixed for 2.0.
Though the attendees agreed that something should to be to this page in
general, it's rather unlikely to happen towards 2.0, since since nobody
really complained so far, and the topic as such does not really fit
into what has been defined as main goals for 2.0.<br>
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