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 			Matthias M&uuml;ller-Prove (MMP)<BR>+ Frank Sch&ouml;nheit (FS)<BR>+
 			Oliver Specht (OS)<BR>- Gunnar Timm (GT)<BR>+ Christian Lippka
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 	<A HREF="#Roundtable">Roundtable</A>
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 <H1 CLASS="western">1 Action Items</H1>
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 				<P CLASS="western" ALIGN=LEFT>Responsible</P>
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 				<P><B>previous items</B></P>
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 			<TD WIDTH=64%>
 				<P><A HREF="#ai11">Investigate Tools/Options layout</A></P>
 			</TD>
 			<TD WIDTH=16%>
 				<P>CJ</P>
 			</TD>
 			<TD WIDTH=20%>
 				<P><A HREF="#ai11">in progress (1.1)</A></P>
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 			<TD WIDTH=64%>
 				<P><A HREF="#ai12">Collect occurrences of &quot;do not show this
 				again&quot; dialogs</A>
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 			<TD WIDTH=16%>
 				<P>all -&gt; FS</P>
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 				<P><A HREF="#ai12">in progress (1.2)</A></P>
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 			<TD WIDTH=64%>
 				<P><A HREF="#ai13">Look for guidelines regarding &quot;do not
 				show this again&quot; dialogs</A></P>
 			</TD>
 			<TD WIDTH=16%>
 				<P>CJ</P>
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 				<P><A HREF="#ai13">done (1.3)</A></P>
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 				<P><B>new items</B></P>
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 			<TD WIDTH=64%>
 				<P><A HREF="#r22">Save Cursor Position in Writer Document</A></P>
 			</TD>
 			<TD WIDTH=16%>
 				<P>CJ</P>
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 				<P>new (2.2)</P>
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 <H3 CLASS="western" STYLE="margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; widows: 0; orphans: 0; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto"><A NAME="ai11"></A>
 1.1 Investigate Tools/Options layout</H3>
 <P>The left navigation pane of the tools/options dialog is too narrow
 to display all topics for all languages properly. CJ is going to look
 for a better width value.</P>
 <H3 CLASS="western"><A NAME="ai12"></A>1.2 Collect occurrences of &quot;do
 not show this again&quot; dialogs</H3>
 <P>We (nearly) all collected the occurrences of &quot;do not show
 this again&quot; dialogs. Now Frank will make a summary of it and
 will publish this collection to <SPAN LANG="en-US">OpenOffice.org.</SPAN></P>
 <H3 CLASS="western"><A NAME="ai13"></A>1.3 Look for guidelines
 regarding &quot;do not show this again&quot; dialogs</H3>
 <P>According to the KDE guidelines, a button &quot;Show all messages
 again&quot; should be used in the options panel.</P>
 <P><A HREF="http://developer.kde.org/documentation/standards/kde/style/dialogs/simple.html">http://developer.kde.org/documentation/standards/kde/style/dialogs/simple.html</A></P>
 <P>However, this does not apply to StarOffice 6.x</P>
 <H1 CLASS="western"><A NAME="Roundtable"></A>2 Roundtable</H1>
 <H3 CLASS="western">2.1 Jump to Text Cursor Position</H3>
 <P>CJ and FL are analyzing the current behavior when and how SO/OO.o
 scrolls the view to the cursor position. Sometimes this causes an<SPAN LANG="en-US">
 annoying </SPAN>effect, e.g. on saving a document the window scrolls
 back to the text cursor.</P>
 <H3 CLASS="western"><A NAME="r22"></A>2.2 Save Cursor Position in
 Writer Document</H3>
 <P>Some user like that SO/OO.o Writer opens documents at the
 <SPAN LANG="en-US">position</SPAN>, where the document was last
 saved. Some other users dislike this feature. Esp. on distributing
 SO/<SPAN LANG="en-US">OO.o</SPAN> documents to other users this is an
 unintended quality.</P>
 <P>Action Item for CJ: Summarize the pros and cons and propose an UI
 spec for this topic.
 </P>
 <UL>
 	<LI><P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">Read-only documents should always
 	open in the default position
 	</P>
 	<LI><P>Cursor position can/should be stored in the history. This
 	makes the state relative to each SO/<SPAN LANG="en-US">OO.o</SPAN>
 	user.
 	</P>
 </UL>
 <H3 CLASS="western">2.3 Last Document Close Behavior</H3>
 <P>MMP is working on a new definition for the behavior &quot;What
 should happen if the user closed the last document in SO/OO.o?&quot;
 Proposal will be posted to <SPAN LANG="en-US">OO.o</SPAN>' Web site,
 soon.</P>
 <H3 CLASS="western">2.4 oeone</H3>
 <P>CJ suggests to take a look at <A HREF="http://www.oeone.com/">http://www.oeone.com/</A></P>
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	<P>+ Hans-Peter Burow (PB)<BR>+ Christian Jansen (CJ)<BR>+
	Matthias Müller-Prove (MMP)<BR>+ Frank Schönheit (FS)<BR>+
	Oliver Specht (OS)<BR>- Gunnar Timm (GT)<BR>+ Christian Lippka
	(CL)<BR>+ Daniel Rentz (DR)</P>
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	<P CLASS="western" ALIGN=LEFT>Minute Taker</P>
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	<P ALIGN=LEFT>MMP (next: GT, OS, DR, CJ, CL, FS, PB, MMP)</P>
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	<P CLASS="western" ALIGN=LEFT>Distribution List</P>
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	<P>http://ui.openoffice.org/protocols</P>
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	<H1 CLASS="western">Table of Contents</H1>
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	Action Items
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	<LI><P STYLE="widows: 0; orphans: 0; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto">
	<A HREF="#Roundtable">Roundtable</A>
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	<H1 CLASS="western">1 Action Items</H1>
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	<P CLASS="western" ALIGN=LEFT>Responsible</P>
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	<P CLASS="western" ALIGN=LEFT>Status</P>
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	<P><B>previous items</B></P>
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	<TD WIDTH=64%>
	<P><A HREF="#ai11">Investigate Tools/Options layout</A></P>
	</TD>
	<TD WIDTH=16%>
	<P>CJ</P>
	</TD>
	<TD WIDTH=20%>
	<P><A HREF="#ai11">in progress (1.1)</A></P>
	</TD>
	</TR>
	<TR VALIGN=TOP>
	<TD WIDTH=64%>
	<P><A HREF="#ai12">Collect occurrences of "do not show this
	again" dialogs</A>
	</P>
	</TD>
	<TD WIDTH=16%>
	<P>all -> FS</P>
	</TD>
	<TD WIDTH=20%>
	<P><A HREF="#ai12">in progress (1.2)</A></P>
	</TD>
	</TR>
	<TR VALIGN=TOP>
	<TD WIDTH=64%>
	<P><A HREF="#ai13">Look for guidelines regarding "do not
	show this again" dialogs</A></P>
	</TD>
	<TD WIDTH=16%>
	<P>CJ</P>
	</TD>
	<TD WIDTH=20%>
	<P><A HREF="#ai13">done (1.3)</A></P>
	</TD>
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	<TD COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100% VALIGN=TOP>
	<P><B>new items</B></P>
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	<TD WIDTH=64%>
	<P><A HREF="#r22">Save Cursor Position in Writer Document</A></P>
	</TD>
	<TD WIDTH=16%>
	<P>CJ</P>
	</TD>
	<TD WIDTH=20%>
	<P>new (2.2)</P>
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	<H3 CLASS="western" STYLE="margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; widows: 0; orphans: 0; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto"><A NAME="ai11"></A>
	1.1 Investigate Tools/Options layout</H3>
	<P>The left navigation pane of the tools/options dialog is too narrow
	to display all topics for all languages properly. CJ is going to look
	for a better width value.</P>
	<H3 CLASS="western"><A NAME="ai12"></A>1.2 Collect occurrences of "do
	not show this again" dialogs</H3>
	<P>We (nearly) all collected the occurrences of "do not show
	this again" dialogs. Now Frank will make a summary of it and
	will publish this collection to <SPAN LANG="en-US">OpenOffice.org.</SPAN></P>
	<H3 CLASS="western"><A NAME="ai13"></A>1.3 Look for guidelines
	regarding "do not show this again" dialogs</H3>
	<P>According to the KDE guidelines, a button "Show all messages
	again" should be used in the options panel.</P>
	<P><A HREF="http://developer.kde.org/documentation/standards/kde/style/dialogs/simple.html">http://developer.kde.org/documentation/standards/kde/style/dialogs/simple.html</A></P>
	<P>However, this does not apply to StarOffice 6.x</P>
	<H1 CLASS="western"><A NAME="Roundtable"></A>2 Roundtable</H1>
	<H3 CLASS="western">2.1 Jump to Text Cursor Position</H3>
	<P>CJ and FL are analyzing the current behavior when and how SO/OO.o
	scrolls the view to the cursor position. Sometimes this causes an<SPAN LANG="en-US">
	annoying </SPAN>effect, e.g. on saving a document the window scrolls
	back to the text cursor.</P>
	<H3 CLASS="western"><A NAME="r22"></A>2.2 Save Cursor Position in
	Writer Document</H3>
	<P>Some user like that SO/OO.o Writer opens documents at the
	<SPAN LANG="en-US">position</SPAN>, where the document was last
	saved. Some other users dislike this feature. Esp. on distributing
	SO/<SPAN LANG="en-US">OO.o</SPAN> documents to other users this is an
	unintended quality.</P>
	<P>Action Item for CJ: Summarize the pros and cons and propose an UI
	spec for this topic.
	</P>
	<UL>
	<LI><P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">Read-only documents should always
	open in the default position
	</P>
	<LI><P>Cursor position can/should be stored in the history. This
	makes the state relative to each SO/<SPAN LANG="en-US">OO.o</SPAN>
	user.
	</P>
	</UL>
	<H3 CLASS="western">2.3 Last Document Close Behavior</H3>
	<P>MMP is working on a new definition for the behavior "What
	should happen if the user closed the last document in SO/OO.o?"
	Proposal will be posted to <SPAN LANG="en-US">OO.o</SPAN>' Web site,
	soon.</P>
	<H3 CLASS="western">2.4 oeone</H3>
	<P>CJ suggests to take a look at <A HREF="http://www.oeone.com/">http://www.oeone.com/</A></P>
	<P>They have done a desktop with Linux/Mozilla/XUL technology.</P>
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