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| <P ALIGN=LEFT STYLE="margin-top: 0.63cm; margin-bottom: 0.42cm; page-break-after: avoid"><B>Weekly Meeting Virtual User Interface Team</B></P> |
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| <P ALIGN=LEFT>Date</P> |
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| <P ALIGN=LEFT>January 31<SUP>th</SUP> 2002</P> |
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| <P ALIGN=LEFT>Time</P> |
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| <P>10:00h, MEST</P> |
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| <P ALIGN=LEFT>Location</P> |
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| <P>Cupertino, eham-02</P> |
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| <P ALIGN=LEFT>Attendees</P> |
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| <P>Christian Lippka (CL)<BR>Peter Burow (PB)<BR>Gunnar Timm |
| (GT)<BR>Christian Jansen (CJ)<BR>Daniel Rentz (DR)<BR>Oliver |
| Specht (OS)<BR>Frank Schönheit (FS)</P> |
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| <P ALIGN=LEFT>Minute Taker</P> |
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| <P ALIGN=LEFT>Frank Schönheit (next: PB, DR, GT, CL, OS, FS)</P> |
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| <P ALIGN=LEFT>Distribution List</P> |
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| <P>http://ui.openoffice.org/protocols</P> |
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| <P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm; widows: 0; orphans: 0; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto">1 Action |
| Items</P> |
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| Comments on Action Items</P> |
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| Description for Gallery Items</P> |
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| Keyboard Access to the Gallery</P> |
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| of Dialogs</P> |
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| Line</P> |
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| Abbreaviations</P> |
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| <H1 CLASS="western">1 Action Items</H1> |
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| <P ALIGN=LEFT>Responsible</P> |
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| <P>Create a concept of Common UI factory design</P> |
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| <P>FS</P> |
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| <P>stalled</P> |
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| <P>Determine what to do for Accessibility</P> |
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| <P>OS</P> |
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| <P>in progress</P> |
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| <P>Determine whether base classes for the Accessibility API will |
| be provided (1)</P> |
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| <P>OS</P> |
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| <P>done</P> |
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| <P>Determine whether a description for gallery elements is |
| necessary</P> |
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| <P>CJ</P> |
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| <P>new</P> |
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| <H2 CLASS="western">1.1 Comments on Action Items</H2> |
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| <LI><P>As it rose during another meeting regarding accessibility |
| base classes, these do not make sense at all - the requirements are |
| too different. At least this holds for application-spanning |
| accessibility implementations.</P> |
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| <H1 CLASS="western">2 Status</H1> |
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| <LI><P>GT finished making the Text Orientation control accessible. |
| As this control is always tied to a numeric input field next to it, |
| it was decided to not represent it with an own accessibility object |
| at all (instead an AT tool will see the numeric field without loss |
| of information) , but just ensure that visual issues (high contrast |
| mode and such) are solved.</P> |
| <LI><P><A NAME="s"></A>OS told us that the Border control (for e.g. |
| table cell borders) is nearly accessible, some API implementations |
| are still missing</P> |
| <LI><P>PB is collecting information about the |
| SvTreeListBox/SvListBox class hierarchy, to prepare designing the |
| accessibility API for these classes.</P> |
| <LI><P>FS raised the concern that the BrowseBox may become a |
| resource problem. We currently have nobody who knows this class (and |
| derivees) well enough, and at the same time has time to take care |
| for it - the UNO developer manual is tying much ressources at the |
| moment.</P> |
| <LI><P>The accessibility of the gallery component has been given |
| over to Kai Ahrens (OpenOffice.org Draw Team)</P> |
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| <H1 CLASS="western">3 Misc</H1> |
| <H2 CLASS="western">3.1 Description for Gallery Items</H2> |
| <P>There was a discussion whether it would make sense for the gallery |
| component to provide a <I>description</I> (as |
| XAccessibleContext::getAccessibleDescription) for every entry |
| (question was raised by CJ). There were different opinions about |
| this, most attendees agreed that it may be a requirement to provide |
| at least the <I>possibility</I> to do so. This would mean additional |
| implementation effort: As the gallery content is currently stored in |
| a database (Berkely DB), this needs to be extended; in addition maybe |
| a user interface for changing these descriptions must be provided.</P> |
| <P>CJ will clarify the necessity for this feature.</P> |
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| <H2 CLASS="western">3.2 Keyboard Access to the Gallery</H2> |
| <P>CJ asked whether there are concrete ideas how to use the gallery |
| without a mouse. The most issues (like local navigation) can be |
| solved using the usual VCL mechanisms, but what about the DnD of an |
| element into the document?<BR>OS told us that this should work using |
| the clipboard - the functionallity is already there.</P> |
| <H2 CLASS="western">3.3 Resizing of Dialogs</H2> |
| <P>CJ started a poll about the resize of dialog fonts. Currently, |
| when the user changes the system settings for the font size, this |
| applies to the whole OOo application: Not only the window titles |
| etc., but also complete dialogs (including content) are resized. This |
| is inconsistent with the system behaviour (at least on windows), |
| where this settings affects only window titles, but not window |
| (especially dialog) content. In particular, Windows does not offer a |
| setting for the dialog content - it is always sized according to the |
| system wide font size ("large fonts" vs. "small |
| fonts") settings.</P> |
| <P>The attendees agreed that due to this inconsistency, it would make |
| sense to change the behaviour of OOo so that the system setting |
| affects window titles only, not content.</P> |
| <P>If, somewhere in the future, the system(s) provide(s) a |
| possibility to change the window content font size independent on the |
| window title font size, this needs to be re-integrated in OOo then.</P> |
| <H1 CLASS="western">4 Bottom Line</H1> |
| <H2 CLASS="western">4.1 Abbreaviations</H2> |
| <P>AT - Assistive Technologie</P> |
| <P>VCL - visual component library - base library used for visualizing |
| OOo to the user</P> |
| <P>DnD - Drag and Drop</P> |
| <P>OOo - OpenOffice.org</P> |
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