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| <P CLASS="documenttype"><a href="index.html">Meeting Minutes</a></P> |
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| <P CLASS="companyname">OpenOffice.org</P> |
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| <P ALIGN=LEFT STYLE="margin-top: 0.63cm; page-break-after: avoid"><B>Weekly |
| Meeting common User Interface (CUI)</B></P> |
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| <P ALIGN=LEFT>Date</P> |
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| <P ALIGN=LEFT>September 5<SUP>th</SUP> 2002</P> |
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| <P ALIGN=LEFT>Time</P> |
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| <P>10:00h, MEST</P> |
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| <P ALIGN=LEFT>Location</P> |
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| <P>Cupertino</P> |
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| <P ALIGN=LEFT>Attendees</P> |
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| <P>+ Hans-Peter Burow (PB)<BR>+ Christian Jansen (CJ)<BR>- |
| Matthias Müller-Prove (MMP)<BR>+ Frank Schönheit (FS)<BR>+ |
| Oliver Specht (OS)<BR>+ Gunnar Tim (GT)<BR>+ Christian Lippka |
| (CL)<BR>- Daniel Rentz (DR)</P> |
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| <P ALIGN=LEFT>Minute Taker</P> |
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| <P ALIGN=LEFT>FS (next: GT, PB, MMP, OS, DR, CJ, CL)</P> |
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| <P ALIGN=LEFT>Distribution List</P> |
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| <P>http://ui.openoffice.org/protocols</P> |
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| <P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm; widows: 0; orphans: 0; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto">1 Action |
| Items</P> |
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| Roundtable</P> |
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| <H1 CLASS="western">1 Action Items</H1> |
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| <P ALIGN=LEFT>Responsible</P> |
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| <P ALIGN=LEFT>Status</P> |
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| <P><B>previous items</B></P> |
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| <P>resource-level support of HC images/bitmaps, discuss |
| implementation with Philipp Lohmann (PL)</P> |
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| <P>CL</P> |
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| <P>open</P> |
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| <P>Invite MBA and SSA to discuss floating window issues</P> |
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| <P>CJ</P> |
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| <P>open</P> |
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| <P><B>new items</B></P> |
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| <P>Invgestigate Tools/Options layout (2.1)</P> |
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| <P>CJ</P> |
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| <P>Collect occurences of "do not show this again" |
| dialogs (2.2)</P> |
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| <P>all</P> |
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| <P>Look for guidelines regarding "do not show this again" |
| dialogs (2.2)</P> |
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| <P>CJ</P> |
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| <P>Discuss new read-only cursor with Frank Loehmann (2.3)</P> |
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| <P>FS</P> |
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| <H1 CLASS="western">2 Roundtable</H1> |
| <H2 CLASS="western">2.1 Tools/Options</H2> |
| <P>FS told that now that we have much more tab pages in the options |
| dialog's “OpenOffice.org” section, the initial state of |
| the dialog is quite ugly in some languages. For instance, in german, |
| some texts are wide enough to not fit into the left hand side pane |
| anymore when a vertical scrollbar is visible (which is the default |
| when the "OpenOffice.org" section is expanded due to the |
| higher number of pages).</P> |
| <P>As others did not yet encounter this problem, it needs to |
| investigated if this is a special german-only problem. CJ volunteered |
| to investigate this.</P> |
| <H2 CLASS="western">2.2 "do not show this again" options</H2> |
| <P>Recently, some warning dialogs have been introduced in various |
| places where a checkbox allows the user to permanently switch off |
| this kind of warnings ("do not show this again").</P> |
| <P>As all these new options currently do not have a possibility to be |
| switched on, again (instead of re-installing :), FS asked if we |
| should at least document all the current places where such a dialog |
| is used. Claiming that in the future, we need to allow to switch on |
| them (see below), we should not start collecting all places then, but |
| now and here while we implement them.</P> |
| <P>There was a discussion about whether or not it is really necessary |
| to switch on such warnings, once the user said "don't show this |
| again" in some first place. However, the attendees agreed that |
| it can happen too easily that a user clicks away such a warning, |
| without really reading and understanding it, but with checking the |
| option which prevents the warning in the future. In such cases, |
| switching it on again may be wished.</P> |
| <P>No concrete design (neither for the UI nor technical) was made yet |
| about how to implement such a "switch on again" later (it |
| was not really considered a concrete need for action), but we agreed |
| to collect all the places where we currently have such dialogs.</P> |
| <P>As especially the concrete implementation (one switch for all |
| settings, or many switches for single settings) were discussed, CJ |
| volunteered to look for guidelines regarding this topic.</P> |
| <H2 CLASS="western">2.3 Cursor in read-only Text Documents</H2> |
| <P>FS raised that the newly implemented feature of a cursor in |
| read-only documents is somewhat strange, in his opinion. First, the |
| default is "on", which means in a new installation, when |
| opening a text document readonly, a (non-blinking) cursor is visible, |
| which is somewhat irritating. Second, the option to turn off this is |
| to be found in Tools/OpenOffice.org/Accessibility, while the user |
| would probably expect Tools/Options/Text document or such.</P> |
| <P>FS is to discuss this behaviour with Frank Loehmann, who |
| originally designed this.</P> |
| <H2 CLASS="western">2.4 Assigning Macros to Keyboard Events</H2> |
| <P>CJ told that currently, to assign a macro to a keyboard event |
| (respectively shortcut), in OpenOffice.org 19 mouse clicks are |
| necessary, which he considered way too much (where all attendees |
| agreed :). CJ asked what possibilities we have to changes this, but |
| given that the current dialog for this is to be changed, anyway (as |
| it is pretty old-fashioned and a real pain in the neck, not only with |
| respect to keyboard configuration), the attendees agreed that the |
| problem should be solved during the complete re-design.</P> |
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