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| Mailing List Migration Project |
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| <h3 id="migration">Hermes → Mailgw</h3> |
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| As part of the Apache Infrastructure team's goals of modernization and |
| service improvement, we are pleased to announce the general availability |
| of "mailgw", the long-awaited replacement for hermes. |
| <p> |
| This document addresses common questions related to the migration of mail |
| and mailing lists to the new server. |
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| <h3 id="faq">Frequently Asked Questions</h3> |
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| <h4>What are hermes and mailgw, and why are we migrating?</h4> |
| <p> |
| Hermes and mailgw are hostnames for the servers that process mail to |
| @apache.org email addresses. They also process mailing list traffic |
| for all ASF projects, e.g. "users@httpd.apache.org". |
| <p> |
| Hermes is a nearly 10 year old legacy server that pre-dates Infra's modern |
| configuration management strategy, and pre-dates many modern email |
| technologies like TLS encryption. |
| <p> |
| Mailgw is a modern server using currently available technology, and |
| under full configuration management, greatly improving reliability and |
| reproducibility of the service in case of failures. |
| <p> |
| The migration process moves @apache.org and @$project.apache.org email |
| services from hermes onto mailgw, ensuring that email services remain |
| compliant with modern standards to the greatest extent possible. |
| <p> |
| <h4>Will we lose any email?</h4> |
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| No. Despite a list being migrated from hermes to mailgw, mail which was |
| 'in flight' to hermes will still be delivered to the list subscribers on |
| hermes. Once the list is fully migrated, we will reroute email to mailgw |
| automatically. This process is transparent to users. |
| <p> |
| <h4>Will this affect official archives?</h4> |
| <p> |
| No. We manage archives through mailing list subscriptions to the PonEE |
| archival service and list subscriptions to the mbox-vm archiver. Mail |
| delivered via either hermes or mailgw will make it to the official archives. |
| <p> |
| <h4>What about unofficial mbox archives?</h4> |
| <p> |
| hermes-based ~apmail/lists/project.a.o/archives accessible via ezmlm's |
| archive commands (get/index/thread/etc) will not be transferred to mailgw. |
| They will be archived for posterity and we can provide them upon |
| Member request. Access all mailing list archives via the |
| official URL <a href="https://lists.apache.org">https://lists.apache.org</a>. |
| <p> |
| <h4>Will the system preserve queued moderation mail?</h4> |
| <p> |
| Yes. |
| <p> |
| <h4>Will the system preserve settings and subscribers/mods?</h4> |
| <p> |
| Yes. |
| <p> |
| <h4>What do I do if there is a problem?</h4> |
| <p> |
| Email users@infra.apache.org or open an Infra Jira ticket. |
| <p> |
| <hr> |
| <h3> APMAIL Volunteer Specific Information</h3> |
| |
| #### Will apmail volunteers be able to access the new server? |
| |
| Yes, apmail access will be re-granted upon request. Ask Infra if you |
| wish to continue as an apmail volunteer, and we will add you to the new |
| server. |
| |
| #### What is the actual hostname of the new server? |
| |
| mailgw-he-de.apache.org |
| |
| #### How do we know if a list has been migrated? |
| |
| The list will exist on mailgw-he-de.apache.org, and the list directory |
| on hermes will contain a flag file called 'migrated-to-mailgw'. |
| |
| #### Do apmail processes remain the same? |
| |
| For the most part, tools in ~apmail/bin will perform as expected, and |
| ezmlm commands (subscriptions, moderation, etc.,) work as expected. |
| Contact Infra if anything doesn't work as expected. |
| |
| #### Has my project been migrated? |
| |
| The following projects have been migrated: |
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| accumulo.apache.org |
| activemq.apache.org |
| age.apache.org |
| airavata.apache.org |
| airflow.apache.org |
| allura.apache.org |
| ambari.apache.org |
| ambari.apache.org |
| annotator.apache.org |
| ant.apache.org |
| any23.apache.org |
| apachecon.com |
| apachecon.eu |
| apisix.apache.org |
| apr.apache.org |
| apr.apache.org |
| archiva.apache.org |
| aries.apache.org |
| arrow.apache.org |
| asterixdb.apache.org |
| atlas.apache.org |
| attic.apache.org |
| avro.apache.org |
| axis.apache.org |
| batchee.apache.org |
| beam.apache.org |
| bigtop.apache.org |
| bloodhound.apache.org |
| bookkeeper.apache.org |
| brooklyn.apache.org |
| brpc.apache.org |
| buildr.apache.org |
| buildstream.apache.org |
| bval.apache.org |
| calcite.apache.org |
| camel.apache.org |
| camel.apbahir.apache.org |
| carbondata.apache.org |
| cassandra.apache.org |
| cayenne.apache.org |
| celix.apache.org |
| clerezza.apache.org |
| cloudstack.apache.org |
| cocoon.apache.org |
| commons.apache.org |
| community.apache.org |
| copylines |
| copylines.readme |
| cordova.apache.org |
| couchdb.apache.org |
| crail.apache.org |
| creadur.apache.org |
| ctakes.apache.org |
| curator.apache.org |
| cxf.apache.org |
| echarts.apache.org |
| empire-db.apache.org |
| eventmesh.apache.org |
| infra.apache.org |
| infratest.apache.org |
| kibble.apache.org |
| pivot.apache.org |
| steve.apache.org |
| warble.apache.org |
| wayang.apache.org |
| weex.apache.org |
| whimsical.apache.org |
| wicket.apache.org |
| ws.apache.org |
| xalan.apache.org |
| xerces.apache.org |
| xmlgraphics.apache.org |
| yetus.apache.org |
| yunikorn.apache.org |
| zeppelin.apache.org |
| zookeeper.apache.org |
| freemarker.apache.org datafu.apache.org geode.apache.org datalab.apache.org geronimo.apache.org datasketches.apache.org giraph.apache.org db.apache.org gobblin.apache.org deltaspike.apache.org gora.apache.org devlake.apache.org griffin.apache.org directory.apache.org groovy.apache.org diversity.apache.org guacamole.apache.org dolphinscheduler.apache.org gump.apache.org doris.apache.org hadoop.apache.org drill.apache.org hawq.apache.org druid.apache.org hbase.apache.org dubbo.apache.org hc.apache.org dump_subs_dig_mods.sh helix.apache.org felix.apache.org heron.apache.org fineract.apache.org hive.apache.org flagon.apache.org hivemall.apache.org flex.apache.org hop.apache.org flink.apache.org httpd.apache.org flume.apache.org hudi.apache.org fluo.apache.org hugegraph.apache.org |
| iceberg.apache.org ignite.apache.org impala.apache.org inlong.apache.org iotdb.apache.org isis.apache.org incubator.apache.org jackrabbit.apache.org jmeter.apache.org juddi.apache.org james.apache.org johnzon.apache.org juneau.apache.org jclouds.apache.org joshua.apache.org jena.apache.org jspwiki.apache.org kafka.apache.org knox.apache.org kylin.apache.org karaf.apache.org kudu.apache.org kyuubi.apache.org kvrocks.apache.org |
| pagespeed.apache.org parquet.apache.org pdfbox.apache.org pegasus.apache.org perl.apache.org petri.apache.org phoenix.apache.org pig.apache.org pinot.apache.org plc4x.apache.org poi.apache.org ponymail.apache.org portals.apache.org pulsar.apache.org |
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