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 <h1>Series: Meet the Dream Team Members</h1>
 <span style="font-style: italic;">(In January 2007, we announced the 11
 charter members of the <a
  href="http://wiki.netbeans.org/wiki/view/NetBeansDreamTeam">NetBeans
 Dream
 Team</a>, a community-oriented group of highly skilled NetBeans users
 devoted to promoting NetBeans and working on the NetBeans Project. In
 these interviews discover who they are, why they are passionate about
 NetBeans and what goals they have for the NetBeans project.)</span><br>
 <br>
 <br>
 <h1>Emilian Bold</h1>
 <h4><img style="width: 213px; height: 240px;"
  alt="NetBeans Dream Team Member Emilian Bold"
  src="../../../images_www/articles/interviews/emilian-bold.jpg" align="left"
  hspace="5" vspace="5">Emilian, Please tell us about yourself.</h4>
 I work as a full-time consultant in Timisoara, Romania, and I make my
 living mostly doing <a href="http://platform.netbeans.org/">NetBeans
 Platform</a> development. I'm pretty
 passionate about it. I left my previous job specifically to work on
 NetBeans Platform projects after I had written enough blog posts about
 the platform to feel confident that it was a
 good development choice. Since then I've always had my hands in
 platform-code in some way or another.<br>
 <br>
 I've also done server-side stuff or clustering code but always
 something connected to the platform. Basically I'm more of a Java
 desktop-programming guy but I have found some passion for clustering
 recently. I also <a href="http://emilian-bold.blogspot.com/">blog</a>
 about the NetBeans Platform.<br>
 <br>
 <h4>Why do you work exclusively with the NetBeans Platform?</h4>
 The NetBeans Platform is a tried and tested framework for modular
 development of Swing applications. With the platform, the worry of how
 best to implement menu bars and combo boxes has been taken care of; all
 you have to do is just use them.<br>
 <br>
 The main benefits of working with the NetBeans Platform are speed and
 quality. Knowing that the platform is of top notch quality means I can
 focus on the business logic. By speed I mean not only development speed
 due to proper API usage and basically not reinventing the wheel but
 also Swing speed. The platform is amazingly snappy and with the
 customized look and feel, people sometimes can't believe it's a Java
 application.<br>
 <br>
 Thanks to the platform's open-source nature and that it's been around
 for a while, the codebase is better than what I would usually write.<br>
 <br>
 <h4>What is your favorite API in the platform?</h4>
 The Lookup API is the backbone of the NetBeans Platform and I like it
 the most. It encourages you to implement a proper SPI and have a
 modular architecture and modular code. One might say that any
 programmer will implement modular code, but the truth is that it is
 either incomplete or comes late in the game and thus requires too much
 refactoring. But with the module system and the Lookup API you get
 modular code from the start. Sure, this will be refactored and will
 evolve in time but it is a better starting point.<br>
 <br>
 <h4>Are you currently working on any major RCP projects?<br>
 </h4>
 I have a year-long RCP project for a big banking
 company. It's a rich desktop client with a server back-end and also a
 cluster on the side for massive financial simulation. I can't say more
 about it though because I have a non-disclosure agreement with the
 company. But I can provide two screenshots that show the usage of the
 Explorer &amp; Properties APIs, Matisse, JFreeChart and Visual Library
 in the NetBeans Platform.<br>
 <br>
 <table
  style="text-align: left; width: 50%; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; height: 45%;"
  border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2">
   <tbody>
     <tr>
       <td style="vertical-align: top;"><a
  href="../../../images_www/articles/bold-rcp1.png"><img
  alt="RCP Screenshot 1"
  src="../../../images_www/articles/bold-rcp1-icon.jpg"
  style="border: 0px solid ; width: 294px; height: 179px;"></a><br>
       </td>
       <td style="vertical-align: top;"><a
  href="../../../images_www/articles/bold-rcp2.png"><img
  alt="RCP Screenshot 2"
  src="../../../images_www/articles/bold-rcp2-icon.jpg"
  style="border: 0px solid ; width: 299px; height: 211px;"></a><br>
       </td>
     </tr>
   </tbody>
 </table>
 <br>
 I'm also trying to bring back the standalone editor (which is now
 discontinued) in the NetBeans Platform. The NetBeans Editor API is
 probably the biggest asset of the IDE and it's a shame people can't use
 it in their standalone applications. True, there are few that may need
 this feature but those that do will surely appreciate the quality and
 the function it provides.<br>
 <br>
 If I have enough time, I would also like to finish my <a
  href="http://emilian-bold.blogspot.com/2008/01/netbeans-platform-autoupdate-via.html">BitTorrent
 AutoUpdate integration</a>. It's a feature for the platform that I
 thought
 about for a long time and finally figured out in January. How to allow
 the NetBeans Platform to download modules from the Update Center via
 BitTorrent. And I don't mean pirating movies here, I'm just talking
 about a smarter download method than pure client-server. To me it makes
 sense not to hammer the netbeans.org server but to allow users
 worldwide to chip-in and share with others, thus reducing the load. I
 just thought it was a pretty cool idea.<br>
 <br>
 What I need to do next is have two functional torrent download
 implementations. The current one is based on the Snark library and I'm
 not entirely sure of the compatibility with trackers. So I would like
 another torrent downloader extracted from the Azureus codebase (which
 is open-source Java). These two will implement a common SPI and
 register themselves in the Lookup.<br>
 <br>
 I would have something like this SPI:
 <tt>com.example.TorrentDownloadProvider</tt> with a <tt>downloadTorrent(URL
 torrent)</tt> method. Each implementation would register their
 implementation in
 META-INF/services and then my URL handler can just pick one from the
 Lookup (based on some user option maybe): <tt>Lookup.getDefault().lookup(
 TorrentDownloadProvider.class)</tt>.<br>
 <br>
 The second part would be actually providing update centers which are
 torrent-based. Now, the update center is just an XML file, so hosting
 that should be easy and rather painless bandwith-wise. We just need to
 keep it in sync with the main update centers. The problem is that we
 need to seed the files via torrent trackers somehow (and I'm not sure
 there's an “open-source” tracker that can do this for us).<br>
 <br>
 Ideally I would have people download the module, select the prefered
 downloader (Azureus engine or Snark) then register to our Torrent
 Update Center. And that would be it!<br>
 <br>
 Of course, the API/SPI will be a bit more complicated and the user must
 be allowed to set various options like how much to share, maximum
 speed, etc.<br>
 <br>
 <h4>What features in the NetBeans Platform would you encourage people
 to explore?</h4>
 This can be a bit hard to do because I'm so knee-deep in it
 that I sometimes take things for granted and fail to realise what
 impression they might have on others. But the most interesting features
 of the platform that I tell people about are its modular nature and the
 auto-update feature. These scream “good quality product” to me. When
 you write modular code and also provide your customers with an update
 center it sends a nice message: “Not only do we support this, but we do
 it with minimal disturbance to your workflow”. Telling the user to
 re-download a big setup is laziness when you could just let the program
 update itself.<br>
 <br>
 <h4>What could be improved in the NetBeans Platform?</h4>
 A problem that I have long noticed about the NetBeans codebase: we have
 good quality code with nice features, but sometimes it's just too
 platform-specific. Some developers already have huge codebases and
 don't want or can't afford a migration to the platform, but they just
 find a particular feature nice: like the new Diff module or the
 “progress bar” we have from the Progress API. I think it would help our
 cause to just make sure some of the code works as standalone. This
 would allow developers to gradually adopt NetBeans Platform APIs up to
 the point when they realize that a migration might be worth making. Or,
 even if they don't migrate, they will still use and care about the
 open-source piece of code they have from us.<br>
 <br>
 <h4>Is NetBeans IDE and Platform adoption high among developers in
 Romania?</h4>
 Java developers in Romania are fairly Eclipse-centered. A large problem
 is that Eclipse usage is so big that new developers don't have an
 option. They select Eclipse because it's what others use or they pick
 it because that's how the project they've signed on to works.<br>
 <br>
 I do try to evangelize NetBeans IDE and Platform. Sadly we don't have
 JUGs here so it all boils down to the very few main programming-related
 events where I put on presentations about
 NetBeans. I gave a NetBeans Platform talk recently at ITFest
 Romania. It
 was a small crowd of students and some high-school seniors. I was quite
 technical and got some blind stares in the room. But some heads were
 shaking so even young programmers “get” the idea behind the platform (I
 touched mostly modularity, Lookup, auto-update).<br>
 <br>
 In order to get a higher share for NetBeans among the developers here I
 think we need more presentations and trainings. People need to be
 made aware of the features it has and how it can replace or complement
 Eclipse. For example, the NetBeans Profiler that comes by default now
 with the IDE is a top-knotch product. Years ago, good Java profilers
 were mostly commercial products, and the NetBeans Profiler might be a
 good entry point to show people the IDE's other features. <br>
 <br>
 <h4>How would you convince an Eclipse RCP user to give the
 NetBeans
 Platform a try?</h4>
 It depends on what they do with Eclipse RCP. If they already have a
 huge SWT codebase and they want to use existing Eclipse plugins then
 they are kind of stuck. On the other hand, with a Swing desktop
 application
 there's little that Eclipse RCP seems to offer there (except the OSGi
 module system which is nice). The NetBeans Platform has a good Swing
 Windowing API and other useful APIs such as Nodes, Properties and
 Explorer, which really cut down development time and are quite easy to
 use.<br>
 <br>
 <h4>As a Dream Team member, how do you contribute to the NetBeans
 project?</h4>
 In the past year or so, I've had a rather busy period with my
 consulting business, so I've dedicated less time than I would have
 wanted to NetBeans. I'm waiting for things to settle down so that I can
 once again have a routine that involves a big chunk of Platform work.<br>
 <br>
 In the past month, I've been active in the community with some emails
 on the public and internal mailing lists. I post bugs as I find them
 and I'm working on getting the Editor API working (again) in standalone
 mode. This was a nice feature in the pre-6.0 world which is now gone as
 few people used it. Well, I'm working now to bring it back and it's
 nice to see a simple desktop application have a CSS editor with syntax
 highlight for free. By simple desktop application I mean application
 that isn't platform related.<br>
 <br>
 I also did a photo shoot for the NetBeans 6.0 launch—I had my face on
 the website—so I guess modeling is always a choice if this consulting
 work gets stale!<br>
 <br>
 <h4>Your last name must bring up quite a few puns.&nbsp; What's the
 origin?</h4>
 “Bold-italic-underline.” “The Bold and the Beautiful.” I've heard them
 all and I've gotten used to them. It also means “pin” (like the needle)
 in
 Romanian so that's a source of even more jokes from the Romanian
 perspective. I
 think the name might be of British or German origin but I have never
 found out. One day I'd like to trace it and my lineage and create a
 family
 tree. But I'm saving that for my “retirement” hobby list.<br>
 <br>
 <h4>Thank you, Emilian, and good luck with your projects!</h4>
 <br>
 <a href="http://emilian-bold.blogspot.com/">Emilian Bold's Blog</a><br>
 <div style="text-align: right;"><span style="font-style: italic;">(April
 2008)</span><br>
 <span style="font-style: italic;"></span></div>
 <span style="font-style: italic;"></span><span
  style="font-style: italic;"></span>
 <h2>More Dream Team Profiles</h2>
 <a
  href="https://netbeans.org/community/articles/interviews/dreamprofile-bien.html">Adam
 Bien</a><br>
 <a
  href="https://netbeans.org/community/articles/interviews/dreamprofile-brabant.html">Vincent
 Brabant</a><br>
 <a
  href="https://netbeans.org/community/articles/interviews/dreamprofile-chandler.html">Wade
 Chandler</a><br>
 <a
  href="https://netbeans.org/community/articles/interviews/dreamprofile-giudici.html">Fabrizio
 Giudici</a><br>
 <a
  href="https://netbeans.org/community/articles/interviews/dreamprofile-plewe.html">Joerg
 Plewe</a><br>
 <a
  href="https://netbeans.org/community/articles/interviews/dreamprofile-senger.html">Vinicius
 Senger</a><br>
 <a
  href="https://netbeans.org/community/articles/interviews/dreamprofile-silva.html">Edgar
 Silva</a><br>
 <a
  href="https://netbeans.org/community/articles/interviews/dreamprofile-urrutia.html">Ibon
 Urrutia</a><br>
 <br>
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	<h1>Series: Meet the Dream Team Members</h1>
	<span style="font-style: italic;">(In January 2007, we announced the 11
	charter members of the <a
	href="http://wiki.netbeans.org/wiki/view/NetBeansDreamTeam">NetBeans
	Dream
	Team</a>, a community-oriented group of highly skilled NetBeans users
	devoted to promoting NetBeans and working on the NetBeans Project. In
	these interviews discover who they are, why they are passionate about
	NetBeans and what goals they have for the NetBeans project.)</span><br>
	<br>
	<br>
	<h1>Emilian Bold</h1>
	<h4><img style="width: 213px; height: 240px;"
	alt="NetBeans Dream Team Member Emilian Bold"
	src="../../../images_www/articles/interviews/emilian-bold.jpg" align="left"
	hspace="5" vspace="5">Emilian, Please tell us about yourself.</h4>
	I work as a full-time consultant in Timisoara, Romania, and I make my
	living mostly doing <a href="http://platform.netbeans.org/">NetBeans
	Platform</a> development. I'm pretty
	passionate about it. I left my previous job specifically to work on
	NetBeans Platform projects after I had written enough blog posts about
	the platform to feel confident that it was a
	good development choice. Since then I've always had my hands in
	platform-code in some way or another.<br>
	<br>
	I've also done server-side stuff or clustering code but always
	something connected to the platform. Basically I'm more of a Java
	desktop-programming guy but I have found some passion for clustering
	recently. I also <a href="http://emilian-bold.blogspot.com/">blog</a>
	about the NetBeans Platform.<br>
	<br>
	<h4>Why do you work exclusively with the NetBeans Platform?</h4>
	The NetBeans Platform is a tried and tested framework for modular
	development of Swing applications. With the platform, the worry of how
	best to implement menu bars and combo boxes has been taken care of; all
	you have to do is just use them.<br>
	<br>
	The main benefits of working with the NetBeans Platform are speed and
	quality. Knowing that the platform is of top notch quality means I can
	focus on the business logic. By speed I mean not only development speed
	due to proper API usage and basically not reinventing the wheel but
	also Swing speed. The platform is amazingly snappy and with the
	customized look and feel, people sometimes can't believe it's a Java
	application.<br>
	<br>
	Thanks to the platform's open-source nature and that it's been around
	for a while, the codebase is better than what I would usually write.<br>
	<br>
	<h4>What is your favorite API in the platform?</h4>
	The Lookup API is the backbone of the NetBeans Platform and I like it
	the most. It encourages you to implement a proper SPI and have a
	modular architecture and modular code. One might say that any
	programmer will implement modular code, but the truth is that it is
	either incomplete or comes late in the game and thus requires too much
	refactoring. But with the module system and the Lookup API you get
	modular code from the start. Sure, this will be refactored and will
	evolve in time but it is a better starting point.<br>
	<br>
	<h4>Are you currently working on any major RCP projects?<br>
	</h4>
	I have a year-long RCP project for a big banking
	company. It's a rich desktop client with a server back-end and also a
	cluster on the side for massive financial simulation. I can't say more
	about it though because I have a non-disclosure agreement with the
	company. But I can provide two screenshots that show the usage of the
	Explorer & Properties APIs, Matisse, JFreeChart and Visual Library
	in the NetBeans Platform.<br>
	<br>
	<table
	style="text-align: left; width: 50%; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; height: 45%;"
	border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2">
	<tbody>
	<tr>
	<td style="vertical-align: top;"><a
	href="../../../images_www/articles/bold-rcp1.png"><img
	alt="RCP Screenshot 1"
	src="../../../images_www/articles/bold-rcp1-icon.jpg"
	style="border: 0px solid ; width: 294px; height: 179px;"></a><br>
	</td>
	<td style="vertical-align: top;"><a
	href="../../../images_www/articles/bold-rcp2.png"><img
	alt="RCP Screenshot 2"
	src="../../../images_www/articles/bold-rcp2-icon.jpg"
	style="border: 0px solid ; width: 299px; height: 211px;"></a><br>
	</td>
	</tr>
	</tbody>
	</table>
	<br>
	I'm also trying to bring back the standalone editor (which is now
	discontinued) in the NetBeans Platform. The NetBeans Editor API is
	probably the biggest asset of the IDE and it's a shame people can't use
	it in their standalone applications. True, there are few that may need
	this feature but those that do will surely appreciate the quality and
	the function it provides.<br>
	<br>
	If I have enough time, I would also like to finish my <a
	href="http://emilian-bold.blogspot.com/2008/01/netbeans-platform-autoupdate-via.html">BitTorrent
	AutoUpdate integration</a>. It's a feature for the platform that I
	thought
	about for a long time and finally figured out in January. How to allow
	the NetBeans Platform to download modules from the Update Center via
	BitTorrent. And I don't mean pirating movies here, I'm just talking
	about a smarter download method than pure client-server. To me it makes
	sense not to hammer the netbeans.org server but to allow users
	worldwide to chip-in and share with others, thus reducing the load. I
	just thought it was a pretty cool idea.<br>
	<br>
	What I need to do next is have two functional torrent download
	implementations. The current one is based on the Snark library and I'm
	not entirely sure of the compatibility with trackers. So I would like
	another torrent downloader extracted from the Azureus codebase (which
	is open-source Java). These two will implement a common SPI and
	register themselves in the Lookup.<br>
	<br>
	I would have something like this SPI:
	<tt>com.example.TorrentDownloadProvider</tt> with a <tt>downloadTorrent(URL
	torrent)</tt> method. Each implementation would register their
	implementation in
	META-INF/services and then my URL handler can just pick one from the
	Lookup (based on some user option maybe): <tt>Lookup.getDefault().lookup(
	TorrentDownloadProvider.class)</tt>.<br>
	<br>
	The second part would be actually providing update centers which are
	torrent-based. Now, the update center is just an XML file, so hosting
	that should be easy and rather painless bandwith-wise. We just need to
	keep it in sync with the main update centers. The problem is that we
	need to seed the files via torrent trackers somehow (and I'm not sure
	there's an “open-source” tracker that can do this for us).<br>
	<br>
	Ideally I would have people download the module, select the prefered
	downloader (Azureus engine or Snark) then register to our Torrent
	Update Center. And that would be it!<br>
	<br>
	Of course, the API/SPI will be a bit more complicated and the user must
	be allowed to set various options like how much to share, maximum
	speed, etc.<br>
	<br>
	<h4>What features in the NetBeans Platform would you encourage people
	to explore?</h4>
	This can be a bit hard to do because I'm so knee-deep in it
	that I sometimes take things for granted and fail to realise what
	impression they might have on others. But the most interesting features
	of the platform that I tell people about are its modular nature and the
	auto-update feature. These scream “good quality product” to me. When
	you write modular code and also provide your customers with an update
	center it sends a nice message: “Not only do we support this, but we do
	it with minimal disturbance to your workflow”. Telling the user to
	re-download a big setup is laziness when you could just let the program
	update itself.<br>
	<br>
	<h4>What could be improved in the NetBeans Platform?</h4>
	A problem that I have long noticed about the NetBeans codebase: we have
	good quality code with nice features, but sometimes it's just too
	platform-specific. Some developers already have huge codebases and
	don't want or can't afford a migration to the platform, but they just
	find a particular feature nice: like the new Diff module or the
	“progress bar” we have from the Progress API. I think it would help our
	cause to just make sure some of the code works as standalone. This
	would allow developers to gradually adopt NetBeans Platform APIs up to
	the point when they realize that a migration might be worth making. Or,
	even if they don't migrate, they will still use and care about the
	open-source piece of code they have from us.<br>
	<br>
	<h4>Is NetBeans IDE and Platform adoption high among developers in
	Romania?</h4>
	Java developers in Romania are fairly Eclipse-centered. A large problem
	is that Eclipse usage is so big that new developers don't have an
	option. They select Eclipse because it's what others use or they pick
	it because that's how the project they've signed on to works.<br>
	<br>
	I do try to evangelize NetBeans IDE and Platform. Sadly we don't have
	JUGs here so it all boils down to the very few main programming-related
	events where I put on presentations about
	NetBeans. I gave a NetBeans Platform talk recently at ITFest
	Romania. It
	was a small crowd of students and some high-school seniors. I was quite
	technical and got some blind stares in the room. But some heads were
	shaking so even young programmers “get” the idea behind the platform (I
	touched mostly modularity, Lookup, auto-update).<br>
	<br>
	In order to get a higher share for NetBeans among the developers here I
	think we need more presentations and trainings. People need to be
	made aware of the features it has and how it can replace or complement
	Eclipse. For example, the NetBeans Profiler that comes by default now
	with the IDE is a top-knotch product. Years ago, good Java profilers
	were mostly commercial products, and the NetBeans Profiler might be a
	good entry point to show people the IDE's other features. <br>
	<br>
	<h4>How would you convince an Eclipse RCP user to give the
	NetBeans
	Platform a try?</h4>
	It depends on what they do with Eclipse RCP. If they already have a
	huge SWT codebase and they want to use existing Eclipse plugins then
	they are kind of stuck. On the other hand, with a Swing desktop
	application
	there's little that Eclipse RCP seems to offer there (except the OSGi
	module system which is nice). The NetBeans Platform has a good Swing
	Windowing API and other useful APIs such as Nodes, Properties and
	Explorer, which really cut down development time and are quite easy to
	use.<br>
	<br>
	<h4>As a Dream Team member, how do you contribute to the NetBeans
	project?</h4>
	In the past year or so, I've had a rather busy period with my
	consulting business, so I've dedicated less time than I would have
	wanted to NetBeans. I'm waiting for things to settle down so that I can
	once again have a routine that involves a big chunk of Platform work.<br>
	<br>
	In the past month, I've been active in the community with some emails
	on the public and internal mailing lists. I post bugs as I find them
	and I'm working on getting the Editor API working (again) in standalone
	mode. This was a nice feature in the pre-6.0 world which is now gone as
	few people used it. Well, I'm working now to bring it back and it's
	nice to see a simple desktop application have a CSS editor with syntax
	highlight for free. By simple desktop application I mean application
	that isn't platform related.<br>
	<br>
	I also did a photo shoot for the NetBeans 6.0 launch—I had my face on
	the website—so I guess modeling is always a choice if this consulting
	work gets stale!<br>
	<br>
	<h4>Your last name must bring up quite a few puns.  What's the
	origin?</h4>
	“Bold-italic-underline.” “The Bold and the Beautiful.” I've heard them
	all and I've gotten used to them. It also means “pin” (like the needle)
	in
	Romanian so that's a source of even more jokes from the Romanian
	perspective. I
	think the name might be of British or German origin but I have never
	found out. One day I'd like to trace it and my lineage and create a
	family
	tree. But I'm saving that for my “retirement” hobby list.<br>
	<br>
	<h4>Thank you, Emilian, and good luck with your projects!</h4>
	<br>
	<a href="http://emilian-bold.blogspot.com/">Emilian Bold's Blog</a><br>
	<div style="text-align: right;"><span style="font-style: italic;">(April
	2008)</span><br>
	<span style="font-style: italic;"></span></div>
	<span style="font-style: italic;"></span><span
	style="font-style: italic;"></span>
	<h2>More Dream Team Profiles</h2>
	<a
	href="https://netbeans.org/community/articles/interviews/dreamprofile-bien.html">Adam
	Bien</a><br>
	<a
	href="https://netbeans.org/community/articles/interviews/dreamprofile-brabant.html">Vincent
	Brabant</a><br>
	<a
	href="https://netbeans.org/community/articles/interviews/dreamprofile-chandler.html">Wade
	Chandler</a><br>
	<a
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